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    Colleagues:<br>
    <br>
    I appreciate that there is some frustration with the status quo and
    that there are issues that permeate governance that go beyond the
    concepts that have been set forth to discuss in the working groups.&nbsp;
    I also appreciate the concept of not being limited by artificial
    constraints that were not the result of a true multi-stakeholder
    consultation and agreement. As you know I have already highlighted
    the need for process to make us truly multi-stakeholder and I
    believe all of the constituencies are in the process of nominating
    experts to participate in the process.&nbsp; My view is that those
    experts will be participating in a representative capacity to help
    drive issue discussions and proposed work, but will need to consult
    back with the broader community they represent before approving
    anything going forward as consensus position.&nbsp; As we consider the
    possible processes we can put in place to enable this work to
    progress I am mindful that we cannot boil the ocean of all issues.&nbsp;
    While we should not be overly constrained in the work we choose to
    undertake, we must be realistic that some topics will require work
    in the near and mid term. So perhaps one of the early process
    questions we ask is how to manage and prioritize topics and work?&nbsp;
    Nothing in that level of goal orientation for the working groups
    should preclude a broader discussion of issues on the list, but
    perhaps we can distinguish between things we should discuss and
    things we need to discuss within specific groups based on upcoming
    events...<br>
    <br>
    Best-<br>
    <br>
    Joe <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/2/2013 3:21 PM, Klaus Stoll
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Tijani Benjemaa<br>
        <br>
        Thank you for your reply. I am sorry but I think you have missed
        my point. I did not ask for new definitions, I asked for
        structures discussion, answers and implementation of solutions
        to burning questions in IG today. If you have these answers
        clearly, please lets hear them. If these answers are not clear
        to everyone, all I did was to propose a process that is designed
        to fully support "<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#365F91"
          lang="EN-US">the clear need to continually strengthen and
          evolve the mechanisms for global multi-stakeholder Internet
          cooperation, in truly substantial ways, to be able to address
          emerging issues faced by stakeholders in the Internet</span>".
        My proposal is an attempt to try to add substance to your fine
        declaration, as even the finest declarations need to be followed
        by action in order to lift them off the pages and to give them
        real impact.&nbsp; Do you think a structured process of discussion,
        answers and implementation would be helpful to give the
        Montevideo statement life?. If no, please explain. If yes,
        please help us to make it happen.<br>
        <br>
        With regard to Multilateralism, just ask 3 UN Delegates and you
        will get 7 definitions and understandings. (I wish it was so
        easy. BTW, even my spellchecker has problems to decide how to
        spell it)<br>
        <br>
        Yours<br>
        <br>
        Klaus<br>
        <br>
        Executive Director <br>
        Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation<br>
        <br>
        On 12/2/2013 8:53 PM, Tijani BENJEMAA wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Dear

              Klaus,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
              lang="EN-US">We need new answers and maybe it is better to
              simply start using this list to start discussing
              fundamental questions like: "What kind of multi
              stakeholderism do we need today and how will it create
              itself?", How can the obsolete understanding of
              sovereignty by Nation States be reformed and changes so
              that it actually fits into a digital world?", What does
              multi-lateral, multi-stakeholder, cyber security and so on
              actually means in our reality today?. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#365F91"
              lang="EN-US">I don&#8217;t think the problem is that those
              things are confusing or people have different definition
              for them. I&#8217;m not sure that there are several kinds of
              multi-stakeholderism; it&#8217;s always the same even if the
              stakeholders may be different from a environment to
              another (in the IGF they are governments, civil society,
              private sector and international organizations while in
              ICANN, they are contracted parties, governments, non
              commercial stakeholder group, end users, ccTLD operators,
              etc.). I don&#8217;t believe that there are 2 persons who
              understand Multilateralism differently. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#365F91"
              lang="EN-US">All this started by the Montevideo statement
              that I fully support, and that came subsequently to the
              recent revelations of pervasive monitoring and
              surveillance. It expressed the clear need to continually
              strengthen and evolve the mechanisms for global
              multi-stakeholder Internet cooperation, in truly
              substantial ways, to be able to address emerging issues
              faced by stakeholders in the Internet.</span><span
              style="color: #515151" lang="EN-US"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#365F91"
              lang="EN-US">Paul explained very well the sequence of the
              events and the origin of this (I will not call it
              movement) initiative and I do agree with those who
              highlighted that 1net is not the Brazil meeting next year,
              and it is not conditioned by it at all. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                lang="EN-US">Tijani BEN JEMAA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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              lang="EN-US">Executive Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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              + 216 41 649 605<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"> <a
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                    href="mailto:i-coordination-bounces@nro.net">i-coordination-bounces@nro.net</a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                    href="mailto:i-coordination-bounces@nro.net">mailto:i-coordination-bounces@nro.net</a>]
                  <b>De la part de</b> Klaus Stoll<br>
                  <b>Envoy&eacute;&nbsp;:</b> lundi 2 d&eacute;cembre 2013 10:32<br>
                  <b>&Agrave;&nbsp;:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    href="mailto:i-coordination@nro.net">i-coordination@nro.net</a><br>
                  <b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: [I-coordination] What is 1net to
                  me?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Paul, Dear All<br>
            <br>
            Thanks Paul for starting this discussion threat and all
            those who replied. Paul's article received such a response
            simply by it's virtue that it tried to get some order into
            the chaos, Thanks again Paul, and as my first comment I
            would like to say that we need some clarity about 1net. <br>
            <br>
            If I read all the emails it seems to be a top down, (I
            *group), effort, with the <u>potential</u> to create a
            "bottom up" "movement". Basicaly we are told, as Fadi did
            during the famous 7.00 am Wednesday meeting, and I use my
            own words here "this is it, run with it".<br>
            <br>
            Then there is the mysterious steering committee which seems
            to have the huge potential to add substantially to the
            "Internet's ironic need to travel!",. (Thanks Avri, I will
            never forget this one). My suggestion is to give this 800
            pound gorilla in the room his freedom and forget it. Like
            many Gorillas, it will seldom fly! (and if it flies, it has
            to answer the question if it has the right and legitimacy to
            do so).<br>
            <br>
            Looks like another fine mess we are in. Here some thoughts
            that might get some constructive outcomes going.<br>
            <br>
            Can we stop calling it a "movement", ya basta!. Movements
            happen, they are not created or enabled top down by a group
            how ever good meaning.<br>
            <br>
            Most of the discussion seems to be about the role and
            position of existing Internet Governance groups and
            organizations. I think this is short sighted because we try
            to fix a car with the parts that are already broken. What we
            need is a process of: a) reevaluation, b) recreation, and c)
            assembly.<br>
            <br>
            Maybe it would be a good idea to forget Brazil meetings,
            steering committee and so on. We are going into these
            discussions with the same old structures, interests and
            instruments to got us stuck in the first place. We need new
            answers and maybe it is better to simply start using this
            list to start discussing fundamental questions like: "What
            kind of multi stakeholderism do we need today and how will
            it create itself?", How can the obsolete understanding of
            sovereignty by Nation States be reformed and changes so that
            it actually fits into a digital world?", What does
            multi-lateral, multi-stakeholder, cyber security and so on
            actually means in our reality today?. If we answer these
            questions, and many other better ones, we have a chance to
            rebuild. May I dare to suggest that we set up a set of
            working group discussion groups, (maybe loosely following
            the ICANN working group principles),&nbsp; that come up with some
            answers. We can then start recreate worn out tools as the
            WSIS and IGF besides others in order to end up we a
            re-assembled IG structure that might serve us for a few
            years more until next time the mess becomes to large to feel
            comfortable. <br>
            <br>
            I hear some of you say, " but we have enough trouble filling
            existing working groups!". Yes you are right. The reason is
            that IG is suffering from something that I would like to
            call "sectoral blindness". Do you really think that this
            group and the I* and the whole ICANN IG based ecosystem even
            begins to start to represent also those who are affected,
            evolved and engaged. There are many outside that you do not
            see and that feel the pain just as much as we, if not more,
            as the usually feel more powerless and frustrated . Just
            look at the group that is dear to my heart the I-Engage
            institute, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.i-engage.me">www.i-engage.me</a> , there
            are dozens of groups like this around, and in order to make
            it work we need to find an instrument to make a joint
            discussion and knowledge exchange happen. It can be done,
            there just needs to be concious efford to look over our
            fences.<br>
            <br>
            So again, my simple straight forward proposal is:<br>
            <br>
            1). Let's think about the questions we need answers. (Forget
            existing power structures for the moment)<br>
            2). Let's come up, if necessary contradictory, answers in
            structured, topic and time limited working groups, that
            include those beyond the "usual candidates"<br>
            3.) Working groups should not just look at the answers but
            also how they can be implemented.<br>
            4.) Joint implementation and evaluation.<br>
            <br>
            That is it very, very roughly. If you think it makes sense,
            if you think its rubbish, if you think it needs tweaking,
            let's hear it.<br>
            <br>
            Who dares to formulate some draft questions and put them out
            here to try?<br>
            <br>
            I end with putting my time where my mouth/keyboard is by
            volunteering myself to make something along these lines
            happen. Who is with me?<br>
            <br>
            Yours<br>
            <br>
            Klaus<o:p></o:p></p>
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