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[I-coordination] The self correcting nature of the American system? Judge rules against NSA tapping program. Snowden vindicated?

manning bill bmanning at isi.edu
Wed Dec 18 20:40:59 CET 2013


root servers are in nearly 180 sovereign locations.
root server operators are subject to Swedish, Dutch, US, and Japanese jurisdiction.

/bill
Neca eos omnes.  Deus suos agnoscet.

On 17December2013Tuesday, at 11:01, Grigori Saghyan <gregor at arminco.com> wrote:

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> I can modify the question - in which jurisdiction there are root servers?
> 
> Grigori Saghyan
> 
> On 17.12.2013 17:58, Ali Hussein wrote:
>> Guys
>> 
>> In which jurisdiction is ICANN domiciled?
>> 
>> Who purports to license ICANN?
>> 
>> Ali Hussein
>> 
>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>> 
>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The
>> world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 4:49 PM, McTim <mctimconsulting at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:mctimconsulting at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ali,
>>> 
>>> It's actually now the GAC IMHO that has the most influence in
>>> ICANN.
>>> 
>>> Ask the folks whose new gTLD applications the GAC have objected
>>> to if it is the GAC or NTIA who has more influence.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> McTim
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Bob Bruen <korg at coldrain.net 
>>> <mailto:korg at coldrain.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ali,
>>>> 
>>>> The Registrars have the most control of ICANN. It's not so
>>>> much governments, as it is business.
>>>> 
>>>> --bob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Ali Hussein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>>> ICANN plays a major role in this. Who really controls ICANN?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>> 
>>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>>> 
>>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction.
>>>>> The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert
>>>>> Einstein
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Andrew Sullivan
>>>>> <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com <mailto:ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 07:35:18AM +0300, Ali Hussein wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> By system being broken I mean the Governance Structures. It
>>>>> is a no
>>>>> 
>>>>> brainer that the current Internet Governance structures
>>>>> where one
>>>>> 
>>>>> nation has an oversized influence is no longer tenable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is this oversized influence and what is the governance 
>>>>> that you think is needed?  I don't actually agree that what
>>>>> you say is a "no brainer".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Andrew Sullivan ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
>>>>> <mailto:ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
>>>>> 
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