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[I-coordination] The self correcting nature of the American system? Judge rules against NSA tapping program. Snowden vindicated?

Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke
Tue Dec 17 15:25:32 CET 2013


Bob

You raise a fundamentally essential point. 

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein

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> On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Bob Bruen <korg at coldrain.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi McTim,
> 
> The GAC does have some influence within ICANN, more than, say the RALOs, 
> but it is nowhere near the Registrars' influence. Otherwise ICANN 
> Compliance would still be functioning, the Sydney office would not have 
> been closed down, a number of compliance people would still have their 
> jobs and whois data accuracy would not be such a problem.
> 
> If IG is a serious issue, then the Registrar influence cannot be ignored. 
> All parts of the problem have to be addressed.
> 
>              -bob
> 
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, McTim wrote:
>> 
>> Ali,
>> 
>> It's actually now the GAC IMHO that has the most influence in ICANN.
>> 
>> Ask the folks whose new gTLD applications the GAC have objected to if
>> it is the GAC or NTIA who has more influence.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> McTim
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Bob Bruen <korg at coldrain.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ali,
>>> 
>>> The Registrars have the most control of ICANN. It's not so much governments,
>>> as it is business.
>>> 
>>>          --bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Ali Hussein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 
>>>> ICANN plays a major role in this. Who really controls ICANN?
>>>> 
>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>> 
>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>> 
>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
>>>> have a generation of idiots".
>>>> ~ Albert Einstein
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>      Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>      On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 07:35:18AM +0300, Ali Hussein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>            By system being broken I mean the Governance Structures. It is
>>>> a no
>>>> 
>>>>            brainer that the current Internet Governance structures where
>>>> one
>>>> 
>>>>            nation has an oversized influence is no longer tenable.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      What is this oversized influence and what is the governance that you
>>>>      think is needed?  I don't actually agree that what you say is a "no
>>>>      brainer".
>>>> 
>>>>      Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>      Andrew
>>>> 
>>>>      --
>>>>      Andrew Sullivan
>>>>      ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
>>>> 
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