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[I-coordination] The self correcting nature of the American system? Judge rules against NSA tapping program. Snowden vindicated?

Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke
Tue Dec 17 15:24:56 CET 2013


Nigel

My point exactly.

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein

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> On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Nigel Hickson <nigel.hickson at icann.org> wrote:
> 
> Greetings 
> 
> ICANN is subject to jurisdiction of US Californian year. It is a non-profit vehicle. 
> 
> Nigel 
> 
> From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:58 PM
> To: McTim <mctimconsulting at gmail.com>
> Cc: "i-coordination at nro.net" <i-coordination at nro.net>, "korg at knujon.org" <korg at knujon.org>
> Subject: Re: [I-coordination] The self correcting nature of the American	system? Judge rules against NSA tapping program. Snowden vindicated?
> 
> Guys
> 
> In which jurisdiction is ICANN domiciled? 
> 
> Who purports to license ICANN?
> 
> Ali Hussein
> 
> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
> 
> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 4:49 PM, McTim <mctimconsulting at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ali,
>> 
>> It's actually now the GAC IMHO that has the most influence in ICANN.
>> 
>> Ask the folks whose new gTLD applications the GAC have objected to if
>> it is the GAC or NTIA who has more influence.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> McTim
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Bob Bruen <korg at coldrain.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ali,
>>> 
>>> The Registrars have the most control of ICANN. It's not so much governments,
>>> as it is business.
>>> 
>>>          --bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Ali Hussein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 
>>>> ICANN plays a major role in this. Who really controls ICANN?
>>>> 
>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>> 
>>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>> 
>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
>>>> have a generation of idiots".
>>>> ~ Albert Einstein
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>      Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>      On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 07:35:18AM +0300, Ali Hussein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>            By system being broken I mean the Governance Structures. It is
>>>> a no
>>>> 
>>>>            brainer that the current Internet Governance structures where
>>>> one
>>>> 
>>>>            nation has an oversized influence is no longer tenable.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      What is this oversized influence and what is the governance that you
>>>>      think is needed?  I don't actually agree that what you say is a "no
>>>>      brainer".
>>>> 
>>>>      Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>      Andrew
>>>> 
>>>>      --
>>>>      Andrew Sullivan
>>>>      ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
>>>> 
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