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[I-coordination] Relevant Content

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Mon Dec 16 08:11:09 CET 2013

Hossam Elgamal
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at>
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Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:02:46 
To: John Curran<jcurran at>
Cc: i-coordination at<i-coordination at>
Subject: Re: [I-coordination] Relevant Content

Hi John, 

There is an IETF RFC that defines the rules for mailing list ethics and by curation, I am using the unusual term curation as preserving, not removing material and this list should preserve its objective, it's not CNN or BBC for someone's ranting, it's made to fulfill a certain objective. I am wondering why some people just lose their sanity whenever something new starts? I come from a developing country and space, all these mail traffic with unnecessary messages irrelevant to the objectives of 1net is burden on my bandwidth and time. Someone has this notion that the world is gonna end and NRO is the cause is a no brained to relieve of their confused and mental condition.

I am coming from the south, how can we achieve the objectives and course of this group.

Best Regards
Fouad Bajwa

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On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:10 AM, John Curran <jcurran at> wrote:

> On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at> wrote:
>> Hi all, 
>> In the recent few days of my joining this list, there seems to be a great deal of emails from a few members of this list that are irrelevant to the subject of why this list was created in the first place. These messages appear to be in a frequency or numbers which are considered spam or unethical in other groups that I participate. I believe that there is someone that created this list and can act as a facilitator and moderator in terms of curating the list to stay relevant and remove these spammers? I've even seen some messages targeting stakeholders/organizations? Is this why this list was created in the first place? 
> Fouad - 
>  My views on this question are attached; basically, I'd call for caution regarding
>  curation under nearly any circumstances, and if indeed it proves desirable, that
>  such moderation should be a decision of an actual seated 1net steering committee 
>  and not the interim coordination structure. Also, while it is true that some of 
>  the messages are quite colorful in their form of expression, I'm not certain that 
>  they're actually off-topic as much as they are simply unfocused and/or impolite...
>  (and following the robustness principle, any statement of acceptable behavior 
>  for this list should be probably be rather generous in its criteria, rather 
>  than risking Occam's razor somehow excising otherwise meaningful contributors.)
> /John
> Disclaimer: My views alone.  Volunt omnibus bonum
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: John Curran <jcurran at>
>> Subject: [I-coordination] Decorum on the 1net i-coordination mailing list...
>> Date: December 12, 2013 at 10:46:45 AM GMT+9
>> To: "i-coordination at" <i-coordination at>
>> Hello All!
>> A few folks have asked about whether this list is presently (or could be in the 
>> future) moderated.   At the present time, I do not believe that there is any form 
>> of moderation taking place, and given the desire for open participation by any
>> and all towards the goal of improved Internet coordination, such an initial
>> approach is seems quite reasonable.
>> I will note that the Internet is a vast and diverse place, and input received on 
>> improving Internet coordination may appear here in a wide range of forms 
>> and relevance.  That variety is, in my personal opinion, an important feature
>> of the Internet and should be preserved to the greatest extent possible, so 
>> long as it does not interfere with informed discourse towards our goals.
>> In general, it is best to take away from the list what you find of value, add
>> to the discussion where you can contribute, and otherwise appreciate the
>> the Internet in all of its wild diversity...  :-)
>> If in the end the colorful variety of input on the list turns out to be interfering 
>> with productive discussion, _and_ if there's a 1net Steering Committee, _and_
>> if it adopts and communicates widely some norms of behavior for participation, 
>> then a degree of moderation may be reasonable thereafter.  Even then, we need 
>> to keep in mind that freedom of expression is an foundational principle for many 
>> on this list, and hence only to be infringed with abundant diligence and care.
>> Thanks (and Happy Holidays!)
>> /John
>> Disclaimers:  My views alone.  Pax in terra et omnia
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