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[I-coordination] ICANN's role vis-a-vis the Internet ecosystem

manning bill bmanning at isi.edu
Sat Dec 14 02:21:41 CET 2013


you?   me?   most of the folks on this list?

/bill
Neca eos omnes.  Deus suos agnoscet.

On 13December2013Friday, at 17:13, Burkov Dmitry <dvburk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bill,
> who care now about core internet values?
> Dima
> 
> On 14 Dec 2013, at 04:50, manning bill <bmanning at isi.edu> wrote:
> 
>> that path is indirect at best.  a constituency may nominate one or more individuals.  those individuals must accept the nomination and then be vetted by the nomcom 
>> against a blend of objective and subjective criteria.   A key criteria is how well the applicant reflects core Internet values.  Clear bias or allegiance to a given constituency or
>> sector has generally hindered their progress.
>> 
>> 
>> /bill
>> Neca eos omnes.  Deus suos agnoscet.
>> 
>> On 13December2013Friday, at 11:22, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> From a corporate/legal point of view, ICANN has no membership, so all decisions are done by the Board of Directors where in many cases there is no consensus but simple majority.
>>> 
>>> All the other structures under the ICANN umbrella play an advisory role without any decision power at the corporate level, but there is a channel through by the Nominating Committee where constituencies may be able to influence the decision process by nominating candidates to be members of the BoD.
>>> 
>>>> From the constituencies level, each one has its own charter and the decision process may differ from one to another.
>>> 
>>> I'd not spend to much time reading Morse for background about Internet Governance and ICANN (btw I'm also a HAM operator but not much CW lately) 
>>> 
>>> But you can include some Asimov, since sometimes discussions sound almost like science fiction 
>>> 
>>> -Jorge
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 13, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Grigori Saghyan <gregor at arminco.com> wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>> jorge
>>>> It is a good reference, thank you. We have lot of literature -
>>>> Internet give us such facility.
>>>> We can start to read lot of books, Samuel Morse is one of the pioneers.
>>>> But the question is very simple - could you please describe the
>>>> structure  and the decision making procedure in  ICANN?
>>>> Is it based on consensus? Or may be majority will decide? Or may be
>>>> there is a multi-stakeholder exact structure?
>>>> Grigori Saghyan
>>>> ISOC.AM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13.12.2013 22:20, JFC Morfin wrote:
>>>>> At 18:38 13/12/2013, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>>>>> All the history is on-line, many papers, several books. You can
>>>>>> start by reading a paper from Jones Day about their side of the
>>>>>> history how ICANN was created, you can read Milton's two books
>>>>>> "Networks and States" and "Ruling the Root" There is a very good
>>>>>> thesis dissertation by Craig Lyle Simon from University of Miami
>>>>>> "Launching the DNS War" that can provide you a lot of insight,
>>>>>> and much more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathalie,
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to understand what ICANN is about as a _technical_
>>>>> (what has to work in spite of poltics) function, you may also want
>>>>> to read:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Vint Cerf's internet project description: 
>>>>> http://iucg.org/wiki/IEN_48_-_The_Catenet_Model_for_Internetworking
>>>>> 
>>>>> - the ICANN Internet Coordination Policy documents:
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- ICP-1 http://www.icann.org/en/resources/cctlds/delegation --
>>>>> iCP-2 
>>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/resources/policy/global-addressing/new-rirs-criteria
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- ICP-3 http://www.icann.org/en/about/unique-authoritative-root
>>>>> 
>>>>> The ICANN governance documents:
>>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance to understand how it is
>>>>> designed
>>>>> 
>>>>> The affirmation of commitment: 
>>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/aoc/affirmation-of-commitments-30sep09-en.htm
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then to complete the vision in reading the
>>>>> http://www.iana.org/about documents.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is important to grasp, IMHO is the difference between
>>>>> namespace management (any namespace) and what results from history
>>>>> and uniform control by the I* stakeholderhsip (what is specific to
>>>>> the particular ICANN history and strategy).
>>>>> 
>>>>> jfc
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> - -- 
>>>> Grigori Saghyan
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