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[I-coordination] I-coordination Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70

Grigori Saghyan gregor at
Thu Dec 12 13:00:12 CET 2013

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OK Jorge,
let us take a look from business point of view:
1.Telecom - it is a traditional business
2. DNS - it is  new business
3. Content - it is  traditional business with new elements
Can you add some other participants?
Layers - normal model for description, but unacceptable for non

Grigori Saghyan

On 12.12.2013 14:59, Jorge Amodio wrote:
> Hi Grigori,
> comments in-line ...
> It is  necessary to read * manuals, of course. But you do not find
> any exact definition for the term "Internet". You can find a
> mixture of TCP/IP, network of networks, interconnected networks,
> other explanations -without mentioning the DNS. But in real life
> there are few  separate components of the Internet -
> telecommunications, DNS, including numbering,  and content.
> Why is it necessary an "exact" definition ? There are plenty of
> publications and information resources available on-line that
> explain at all levels what is Internet and where it came from. DNS
> and many other systems and resources are integral part of the
> Internet not separate components. IP addresses by itself without
> routing are useless for example.
> ICANN is responsible for DNS - you can take a look on any ICANN 
> meeting agenda - most of topics are DNS related, on Durban
> conference 80% of topics were linked with the DNS.
> While the agenda at ICANN has been dominated by the new gTLD
> program over the past 10+ years, ICANN role and mission include
> other things and actually is not ICANN reponsible for the DNS, as
> DNS is a distributed system the responsibility is also distributed
> and ICANN principal role is of coordination. On the operational
> side ICANN is also one of the root servers operators and the
> current contractor for the IANA function.
> Telecommunications, including transport layers  - there are few
> main players - IETF, ITU, IEEE, and few smaller players. Here you
> can find surveillance  the problems
> Don't understand what to you mean, there are many players at all
> levels.
> Content - this part is not technical, it is our life. Here you can 
> also find few parts - "user generated content"  and
> telecommunications inside one computer (Google, Facebook, etc).
> Again I don't understand what do you mean about
> "telecommunications inside one computer"
> Of course, it is possible to find better separation of components,
> but in some cases one can ask you  - why you want to give such
> definition? If you have a definition, you will be able to regulate.
> And may be on this stage it is not necessary to regulate?
> The OSI Reference Model has been a good reference to separate and 
> describe the layers. and as we have protocols and definitions how 
> communication among layers and between layers must take place to 
> guarantee interoperability,  some of the layers may require more or
>  less regulation. Think for example about the radio frequency
> spectrum.
> For sure you can't just plainly say "regulate the Internet" or
> "govern the Internet" and perhaps that is one of the main issues
> around the "Internet Governance" theme and why while there is an
> accepted *working* definition that came out of WSIS, the issue is
> much more complex and goes way beyond the definition, and its
> application may have a different interpretation for different
> groups and applied to different layers.
> Regards Jorge
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