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[I-coordination] Europe at a tipping point?

Jorge Amodio jmamodio at
Tue Dec 10 20:15:57 CET 2013

IMHO this is a big pile of sensationalist and opportunistic BS to skew the
discussion in the wrong direction, and as I said before I strongly believe
it can't be the driving force for an open and constructive discussion about
an open discussion among all players regarding Internet coordination and

Keep the focus on this BS and you are just calling for the Evil Empire to
strike again.

My .02

Now we have the "five-eyes" group of countries which are part of the
> most massive, pervasive, permanent violation of private rights ever --
> this pervasiness and massive no-barriers operation with state-of-the-art
> techs, special legislation and money-is-no-object power involves five of
> the so-called advanced democracies (yes, NZ and AU included), spying on
> their own citizens at will, and on any other citizen in the world,
> violating constitutions, bills of rights, fairness in trial and
> prosecution, you name it. And the major objective is not security, is
> economic leverage (latest case: Aussies unlawfully peeking into East
> Timorese offices to gain leverage in an oil&gas exploration deal).
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