This mailing list is no longer active and has been transitioned to discuss@1net.org. Members of the I-coordination mailing list have been moved to the new mailing list. To learn more, visit 1net.org.

[I-coordination] Surveillance by Governments around the world

sivasubramanian muthusamy 6.internet at gmail.com
Tue Dec 10 06:50:46 CET 2013


But the Military and Intelligence organs of Governments  find a way to
ensure that ubiquitous crypto is levels below the crypto available to
Military and Intelligence. :)  In other words, the crypto available to the
common man is always well within their ability to break.

Sivasubramanian M
On Dec 10, 2013 11:10 AM, "Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

> Perhaps Bruce Schneier has a point when he suggest that while
> transparency, oversight, and reform are desirable, and worth working for,
> engineering effective ubiquitous crypto on the Internet is the only
> practical solution to widespread bulk surveillance..
>
> http://youtu.be/PkANFt_wIc0
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:24 PM, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>> http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/09/technology/tech-giants-issue-call-for-limits-on-government-surveillance-of-users.html
>>>
>>> Find and include a few more companies from a few other countries to
>>> persuade more governments?
>>>
>>
>> It is not a proposal the governments are going to accept though.
>>
>> No surveillance except by law enforcement with a specific court order is
>> a much more defensible position. I have no problem with intercepts by civil
>> authorities against specific targets. I have a big problem with military
>> authorities performing that type of activity on that scale.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Website: http://hallambaker.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> I-coordination mailing list
>> I-coordination at nro.net
>> https://nro.net/mailman/listinfo/i-coordination
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
>  http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
>  VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://nro.net/pipermail/i-coordination/attachments/20131210/9695395a/attachment-0001.html 


More information about the I-coordination mailing list