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[I-coordination] What is 1net to me?

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at
Thu Dec 5 11:35:57 CET 2013

I believe there is the option for any group/org chair to specifically state
whether comment is on self or otherwise. Making a comment and indicating
"on behalf" will mean that the representative has put into consideration
the internal processes to warrant such move. If however a member of such
group thinks otherwise, then IMHO such objections should be raised within
the particular org/group community and not on 1Net
For me i don't see how 1Net will discredit any statement like that. It's
like claiming comments from the leader of a country house of assembly is
talking based on self when he did not indicate so. By default the initial
understanding will be speaking "in representation of the floor"

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On 5 Dec 2013 11:12, "Roland Perry" <roland at> wrote:

> In message
> <CAMm+LwiqNZ7cNSsXhtSXL2Y0meQPSuS4paRiMbVJj1TA=ieRrw at>, at
> 16:28:42 on Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam at>
> writes
> >> > The IETF and IAB Chairs of course act as leaders, but in general the
> >> >IETF doesn't elect people to speak for it.
> >>
> >> So why did they allow their names to be attached to a statement of this
> >> kind with attributions such as "Chair IAB|IETF"?
> >>
> >> At the very least it will be confusing to people who are not extremely
> >> well versed in IETF politics (which is of course "almost everyone").
> >>
> >> They will undoubtedly assume that their signature is backed by the
> >> organisations they chair, just as we assume that what the RIR and ISOC
> >> chiefs said was representing their organisations' view, and not just a
> >> personal opinion.
> >
> >The constraints Andrew raises are hardly unique to the IETF they apply
> >equally to the President of the United States.
> >
> >Even though the POTUS is elected to speak for the US in treaty
> >negotiations, any treaty must be ratified by the US Senate before it is
> >binding.
> >
> >It is generally understood that the only parties that can make such
> >commitments unilaterally are either essentially undemocratic or
> >inconsequential.
> I disagree. The leaders of organisations can, and do, make serious
> commitments which they have previously cleared with whatever/whoever
> comprises the decision-making process back at the ranch (which may of
> course be democratic, although democracy is somewhat over-rated at
> times). It's called "having a mandate".
> --
> Roland Perry
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